SimpleRL-Zoo: Investigating and Taming Zero Reinforcement Learning for Open Base Models in the Wild
By Weihao Zeng, Yuzhen Huang, Qian Liu, Wei Liu, Keqing He, Zejun Ma, Junxian He. arXiv.org, 2025
523 citations recorded by the source corpus.
DeepSeek-R1 has shown that long chain-of-thought (CoT) reasoning can naturally emerge through a simple reinforcement learning (RL) framework with rule-based rewards, where the training may directly start from the base models-a paradigm referred to as zero RL training. Most recent efforts to reproduce zero RL training have primarily focused on the Qwen2.5 model series, which may not be representative as we find the base models already exhibit strong instruction-following and self-reflection abilities. In this work, we investigate zero RL training across 10 diverse base models, spanning different families and sizes including LLama3-8B, Mistral-7B/24B, DeepSeek-Math-7B, Qwen2.5-math-7B, and all Qwen2.5 models from 0.5B to 32B. Leveraging several key design strategies-such as adjusting format reward and controlling query difficulty-we achieve substantial improvements in both reasoning accuracy and response length across most settings. However, by carefully monitoring the training dynamics, we observe that different base models exhibit distinct patterns during training. For instance, the increased response length does not always correlate with the emergence of certain cognitive behaviors such as verification (i.e., the"aha moment"). Notably, we observe the"aha moment"for the first time in small models not from the Qwen family. We share the key designs that enable successful zero RL training, along with our findings and practices. To facilitate further research, we open-source the code, models, and analysis tools.
View Paper: https://www.semanticscholar.org/paper/16db56b5a57f2e675e5c4f60ca0fbd5764915a5e
Citations in the corpus
- VL-Rethinker: Incentivizing Self-Reflection of Vision-Language Models with Reinforcement Learning (2025, unknown): “Observations: We observe a notable discrepancy between modalities: while RL training often induces slow-thinking behaviors such as longer reasoning traces in math-focused tasks [Zeng et al., 2025, Wen et al., 2025], vision-language tasks rarely exhibit such development.”
- Open-Reasoner-Zero: An Open Source Approach to Scaling Up Reinforcement Learning on the Base Model (2025, unknown): “• All assumptions should be clearly stated or referenced in the statement of any theorems.”
- Does Reinforcement Learning Really Incentivize Reasoning Capacity in LLMs Beyond the Base Model? (2025, unknown): “This approach inspired a wave of open-source efforts to replicate or extend R1’s methodology and improve RL algorithms (Zeng et al., 2025; Liu et al., 2025b; Yu et al., 2025; Liu & Zhang, 2025).”